Christianity is a fear based religion, and here is why…

First of all, I used to be a Christian, even a born again one. I will not here tell the long sorry story of my journey through the religious labyrinth where I met the Minotaur and defeated him. Today am I a happy atheist? Well, I am certainly much happier, but I am not really sure about my atheism since I have not entirely rejected the idea of God. I just know that there is absolutely zero evidence for the existence of a God. And now that I am an enlightened being, I am not even sure what evidence I could accept. If some big powerful being were to appear and claim to be God, how would I know that he is not just some highly advanced life form with a big stick? I would not know. At any rate perhaps this makes me more of an agnostic rather than an atheist. But maybe not; I just do not believe that God or Gods exist. So I guess that makes me a firm atheist after all.

My opinion is that most if not all Christians are deceiving themselves. I do not believe them when they say they love their fictional God. I think they are lying to themselves and unwittingly lying to others. It is like they are in an abusive relationship with their God. I think they merely say they love their God just to avoid burning in hell for all eternity. Then they brainwash themselves so that they think they are sincere in their love most of the time unless they begin to think more deeply about their so called commitment to their God. If that happens, then their preprogrammed fear instinct kicks in and their brains shut down and they resort to threatening others while rationalizing that they are not in an abusive relationship.

They cannot see the facts, just like a man or woman who is being constantly abused and beaten by their spouse cannot see the facts. I would like to challenge Christians on this:

In what twisted way have you convinced yourself that you have chosen to “love” God out of love and not out of avoiding punishment? What part of a loving relationship requires love or eternal torture with no other alternative? Just how sincere do I think you are when you say you love and accept God when you know damn right that the only other alternative is eternal punishment and torture in the fires of hell? My answer is that I think you are all a bunch of self deceived hypocrites who would stop being so if only you could shed the fear and intolerance which dominates your lives.

You can taste the Christian fear whenever you challenge their beliefs. They cannot even consider doubting any of the deliberately crafted fear based propaganda they have been fed because the first thing they fear is being punished by God and so they would then be doomed to burn in hell. Deep down inside they probably know that their beliefs are ridiculous but they are afraid of the consequences of unbelief. Their fear runs so deep and grips them so firmly that they have become stupid. Do not misunderstand me, they are not stupid, they are just in a stupid period of their lives and they need help to get un-stupid.

Well, I have some messages for all you deluded Christians out there. First: Most of you do not even know the God you worship because you have no idea what the Bible actually says. Second: You have to be able to shed the fear based domination that you have been indoctrinated with before you can even begin to use your brain. Third: You have no idea what evidence is. You only believe what feels good, anecdotal tales, and hearsay. You would rather believe some authority rather than actually look at the evidence. Fourth: Your first reaction to any challenge is to think that this is from the Devil which means you must not think about it thereby short-circuiting any hope that you might have to regain your dignity. You are deathly afraid of tolerance and open-mindedness because the Devil is too clever for you. Fifth: You believe that your morals come from your God but you are completely wrong about that. In fact, your morals are far above and superior to God’s but you do not realize this. Sixth: You believe that the Bible is the unerring literal word of God but you have no idea where the Bible came from and you have no idea what it even says. Seventh: If you have read the Bible you cannot come to terms with the contradictions nor the actual character of God as portrayed in the Bible so you deem it necessary to pick and choose your morality and beliefs in order to avoid difficulties. Eighth: You only remember the good things and you forget the bad things. Thus, you have no way of avoiding bad things in the future so you continually repeat the same old mistakes time after time. Ninth: You know for a fact that you do not live the life Jesus Christ called for yet you ignore this contradiction. Tenth: Given that the Bible is supposed to be the unerring literal word of God, you are surprisingly fractious and not at all united in faith or doctrine.

You may have noticed that I have listed ten points, just like the ten commandments. There is no reason why I did that other than to be just quirky about it. I could have listed less or added more points. Meh!

I am sure I could go on and on but the bottom line is that your religion is completely stupid. If that offends you then there is no hope for you and you will continue being deluded into being a good little slave who is not allowed to think and you will always meekly submit to those who control you with fear, intimidation, and manipulative psychological domination tactics. I feel really sorry for you.

I can say the following because I know it is true – I was like you myself before I shed my own fear and got better:

Get well soon, because you are mentally ill.

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18 Responses to Christianity is a fear based religion, and here is why…

  1. Your energy has always existed but that does not mean that you have as a conscious entity. An iron wagon wheel is an iron wagon wheel. Before it was just a mass of iron ore somewhere. That iron wagon wheel will eventually disintegrate and turn to iron oxide. Now some people want to argue for a lingering or eternal consciousness. We have no good evidence that this is the case.

    The term “atheist” merely means a lack of belief in a deity. If you think it makes us so sure of ourselves then you do not know what atheism means. It often means the exact opposite of being sure of ourselves. Atheists just do not know. Paraphrasing what Sam Harris has pointed out, the word “atheist” should not really be necessary. After all, we do not need a word to describe people who do not believe Elvis is still alive; we do not need a word for people who do not believe in astrology, so why should we need a special word for people who do not believe in a god?

    The point about god sending people to hell for not believing is this: Even if this were true, is this the kind of god you would love and follow? Is your god a moral god? Does your god have better morals or worse morals than you do? I have to admit that if a god appeared to me and began torturing me relentlessly with great anguish and pain, I would probably succumb and pretend that I loved him because I don’t like being tormented. But my “love” would certainly not be genuine. Matt Dillahunty put it best when he said that god deals out “…an infinite punishment for a finite crime”.

    Your last statement is particularly revealing. This is the guilt that keeps you enslaved. The entire relationship you have with your god is an abusive one with god being the bully and you the victim. I too felt as you did when I began questioning things. Fear destroys logic and compassion.

    The bottom line is: You have to live your life from a rock solid foundation that begins with letting go of your fear. As a former Christian. I have had to re-build myself from the ground up. I encourage you to read your bible to see what it really says about your god. Make a list in table form with one column being immoral actions dome by god, and in the other column actions done by god which are moral. For example, in the first column you would write things like god butchering thousands of innocent people because of a minor infraction by David. In the other you would put (and I am having a really hard time finding anything god allegedly did that was good) …ummm…Jesus multiplying the fishes and loaves to feed hungry people. Compare both lists and see how contradictory they are. You will quickly realize that as described in the bible, god is a stark raving mad psychopath. Which means that (assuming god really exists) that the bible cannot be correct and all of that crap written in it was made up by power hungry bureaucrats from the Bronze Age.

  2. John says:

    how we got here is very mysterious. I try to be as open minded as possible.

    From the reading I’ve done, it seems that “nothingness” is unstable, which causes something to happen. I’ve also read that energy is never added or removed, it just changed form. So… If that’s the case then the energy that makes up the entirety of me has always existed. That means I’ve always existed in some form and always will exist.

    I don’t know what to make of that.

    I also don’t know how to define “belief”. I use to get mad when people say they are “atheist” because it sounds like you are so sure of yourself. I prefer people to just say “I don’t know what the truth is, but from what I know, I think X is most likely”. But the closest I know that to be is an “agnostic”.

    I am? I think a Christian still? I don’t know. It’s very interesting! It would be easier to believe in a God that didn’t send people to hell for not believing. Hell would be fine with me if it wasn’t eternal. Kind of like a punishment kids get for misbehaving on a larger scale. Intergalactic spankings or being grounded for a thousand years in hell.

    But I never asked to be here. I’m forced into a life I didn’t ask for and then given an ultimatum, and now I have to preach the ultimatum to others in a way that makes it sound like its “good news”. I don’t know how to do that even if I wanted to. And I don’t know enough about history/science to have strong arguments for or against any of my beliefs, and frankly I have other things in my life that I enjoy more than stressing about debating religious topics. Lol.

    I love my life, but itd be nice if God would be a bit more convincing if he is here, that way people can know for sure whether they know God is real or not. When I believe, or doubt I can never tell if it’s logic, fear, or “the devil”. Or maybe I’m only doubting because I’m really suppressing God because I want to live sinfully or something. None of it makes any sense no matter how hard I try to make sense of it, but in my mind I think I’m just thinking these things because I don’t want to go be a missionary and devote everything.

    It’s crazy, mentally. I hold on because of fear, and I don’t know if I’ll ever be able to totally let go. But I doubt the shred of belief I have left would be enough to get me into heaven anyway.

    There’s only been 2 Christians I’ve talked to who get what I’m saying, and they have nothing to say because I think they get it too, they just can’t get themselves to admit there’s a problem.

    Everything you said in the article makes perfect sense, but I feel like I’m sinning by admitting it. Sigh*

  3. Shane, I understand that the inconsistencies and fear would lead to a mental breakdown. You are not alone and I shudder to think of the pain that might have caused you. Thankfully it seems that you have overcome this. It is definitely child abuse. Now I hope you are in a position to take control of your own life, hopefully with all the good and with all the core foundational strength you can muster to be the person the fundamentalist fears the most: A happy atheist. I have made a decision with respect to how I will live the rest of my life. I hope you can make that decision too. I have decided to be the best person I can be in terms of moral, physical, and mental fitness. I choose to love and to be compassionate while still remaining strong and true to myself. This is a choice. It is a decision. I have decided to be this way, even if I knew without a shadow of a doubt that we are all just animals without a soul and that once we were dead we were dead, period. I do not need the promise of a happy eternal life to make that decision. And as for the search for truth, I am happy to have found the only tools that work: Critical thinking and science.

  4. Shane Turner says:

    I get so sick and tired of that b.s. I was never really saved. As a child I must of asked this Jesus to save me and forgive me of my sins on many occasions. The extreme Fundamentalist used to scare the living hell out of me as a child between the ages of 9-15. I was always scared.I was going to burn in a lake of fire for eternity and lots of fear I was left behind because the rapture took place. At age 14 I ended up having a mental breakdown and would blame myself because I was an evil wicked sinner and getting what I deserved. Fundamentalist Christianity is all based on fear and if you ask me it is flat out child abuse to teach this crap to children. You can go on all you want to that I was never saved bullshit. What kind of a God would put a child through so much fear or allow that to happen to them?

  5. Thanks, Erik. It’s been a long time since I paid attention to this blog and I’ve just finished re-reading it. Perhaps it would help others if you would let us know in what way has this helped “you a lot.”

  6. erik says:

    Just Stumble on this old post today !

    Thanks ! That help me a lot !!

  7. Of course there are good and bad people in every situation and there is some truth in every human endeavor or human creative act. You can use anything for either good purposes or selfish purposes. The difference between the scientific viewpoint of reality interpretation and religious interpretation, apart from using them for “good” or “evil”, is that science is based on objective reality and religion is based on personal revelation. The accomplishments of science far outweigh the benefits and accomplishments of religion. How you use either one is a choice.

  8. Todd says:

    I believe in god and an afterlife but I find there is a pool of good Christians and bad Christians. I go to a church that I believe is for good Christians. They dont preach gay hating homophobia, fear, most people going to hell, and all the other nonsense many hardened Christians do. That is the attitude that turns many away from the whole idea of Christianity in the first place.

    Anyone who has read the whole bible knows atleast half of it is bollocks. There are so many contradictions and radical statements. The worst thing of all is so called Christians heavily preach parts they like (eg- the homophobic parts, the go to hell if you do anything wrong parts) yet completely ignore other parts (eg- being a sin to wash clothes of certain colors together, proposing of slavery, women being in an inferior role and not allowed to do certain things). It makes it a joke. There are some good and real parts to the bible, but one has to have a discerning eye.

  9. Thanks for the comment. I especially like one of your closing statements, that “We feel ours is an informed decision and are comfortable with it.” That is clearly the case, isn’t it? You cannot make the same statement for most of the proselytizers and believers out there. The key to the truth is honesty. If you are honest with yourself and with others, you will seek the truth whether or not it suits your taste.

    I admit that believing in a parental figure who will take care of you, wipe your nose, and give you eternal comfort and happiness is a seductive one. But if it is seductive it is also lazy, selfish, and unrealistic. But that is a matter for another post.

  10. Spammy Sammy says:

    In Response to DeMarco Robinson
    Corintheans Chapter 2, verses 12-14
    1611 King James version:
    12Now wee haue receiued, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is of God, that wee might know the things that are freely giuen to vs of God.
    13 Which things also we speake, not in the words which mans wisedome teacheth, but which the holy Ghost teacheth, comparing spiritual things with spirituall.
    14 But the naturall man receiueth not the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishnesse vnto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    21st century English:
    12 Now we have received the essence or notion of God, not the notion or idea of the world, so we might know the ideas that are freely given to us of God.
    13 But ideas we speak are not the words which man’s wisdom teaches, but the ideas that the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual ideas with spirituality itself.
    14 But the natural man doesn’t receive the notions or ideas of the Holy Spirit, because they are nonsense or unintelligible to him: nor can he learn them, because they are spiritually comprehended.
    Because of the ambiguous manner that the bible was written, it is left wide open for people to interpret as best one can. My summary interpretation of these three verses is that what makes sense to God cannot be comprehended by man. God knows what’s going on, you don’t, and that’s the way its going to be until further notice. And through these nearly 1300 pages of disjointed stories and threats, 66 chapters in all, penned by multiple authors, this is the key to knowing God?
    I think what the Administrator was trying to say was one has to courage to question things in order learn the truth about things. Fear based religions demand blind faith in order to function properly. They are so adamant about this, there are specified reprisals for questioning things. Theologies crumble when questioned.
    This is your weakest argument so far. Show me the evidence of Creation, especially based on the Genesis version. Six days? Ok. Science shows a big bang nearly 15 billion years ago. And there’s evidence that the big bang wasn’t the actual beginning. But that’s another subject. Science is gathering evidence that there may be millions of other civilizations scattered throughout the universe. Some have come and gone long before us. Some won’t come for billions of years. There is no way what we have learned in the last millennium lines up with the origins as written by the biblical authors. Stretch your interpretation as much as you will. It doesn’t add up. Sorry.
    2 Corintians Chapter 2 Verse 11
    Lest Satan should get an aduantage of vs: for wee are not ignorant of his deuices.
    For fear that Satan would take advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his tricks.
    That looks to me like the bible is saying Christians are too smart for Satin’s shenanigans. We all know that in practice it really doesn’t go down that way. And most religious sermons I’ve seen, the Devil gets the blame for everybody’s transgressions. That seems to be why Satin is on God’s payroll. If God was really serious about wanting everyone to walk a straight line, he would have gotten rid of this Satan guy in the first place. It seems he has ability, and its not like he has to clear it with the HR department. This verse really doesn’t seem to refute the Administrators statement in the first place.
    If morals come from God it is your belief that an atheist is without morals? That’s a load. Morals are a human concept. There are civilizations in remote parts of the world that have never heard of God, yet they have laws and are very moral by most people’s standards, and live a righteous existence. Who sets the standard? Your peers. You can call them lawmakers if you wish, but society in general dictate what’s acceptable. That’s why different cultures have different morals and enforce them accordingly. Christianity merely uses the harshest punishment as a deterrent. God loves you but will burn you for all eternity necessary and will banish you forever. I won’t do that to my kids.

    2 Timothy 3:16
    16 All Scripture is giuen by inspiration of God, & is profitable for doctrine, for reproofe, for correction, for instrution in righteousnesse,
    Ok, someone felt inspired by the concept of God, and started writing. Everyone who ever wrote “scripture” for the religion of their choice has claimed God inspired their words. All religions. Someone is making this up. Or possibly everyone? Hmm.
    Samuel Chapter 6 verse 23
    23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no childe vnto the day of her death.
    Michal bore no children.
    Samuel Chapter 21 verse 8
    8 But the king tooke the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare vnto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth, and the fiue sonnes of Michal the daughter of Saul, whome she brought vp for Adriel the sonne of Barzillai the Meholathite.
    Oops! Michal had five sons. I guess Saul had two daughters named Michal. One was barren. The other one had five kids. Makes perfect sense. Tell you what, just Google “Contradictions on the bible”. Others have done the research. There are dozens of glaring contradictions in the bible.
    The Catholic confessional concept comes to mind about this subject. One can go about their lives committing sins left and right, go into the confession booth, lay it all out, apologize to a priest, do a penance, and walk away absolved. Do most people repeat these “sins”? You betcha! Over and over until they die. Your logic is faulty.
    I concede that people are fallable therefore fall way short of perfection. Anyone who says he is striving for perfection is running for office and is not to be trusted. We know what is correct and moral for the most part. The bible is a very wordy guideline for morality. I don’t understand how God could have a son, make him live a rather unpleasant life, and die in such an unthinkable way at such a young age. And I’m sorry, but I really can’t wrap my head around the concept of mankind’s transgressions are forgiven because he was forced to endure a wrongful execution. For a guy that can do anything, make any rule he wishes, it seems totally unnecessary to do that to your only child. After all its God’s forgiveness you guys seek. Whether his son was tortured to death or not, it’s still his choice. One has nothing to do with the other.
    The fact of the matter is the Bible is full of outrageous stories(Noah’s ark for example), exaggerated figures (people living for 500 to 900 years), contradictions left and right, but that is what is to be expected of a document started 60 or more years after Christ’s death. Dozens of people helped write it over hundreds of years, and as language evolved, a king had it rewritten a millennia and half later. Then it was again rewritten three hundred years later. It is fractious and not united I faith or doctrine. That is precisely why so many different Christian religions have sprung up. I’m sorry, but if someone gives testimony and that story is full of contradictions, that person will not be believed. Their testimony is considered null and void because its hard to separate truth from fiction.
    The bottom line is organized religion is necessary for those who can’t face their own mortality with their head up. The idea that there is a utopian existence waiting for worthy people after they die makes it possible for us to have loved ones die while we carry on. People need that fantasy, and if some don’t, you haven’t the right to call them or their disbelief stupid. I think your Jesus would bitchslap you for that.
    You might quote a few ambiguous verses from the “good book” but most bible scholars would consider you still ignorant. Your closing statement of declaring the Administrator eternally doomed for his is that typical fear based response I see coming from so many “Christians”. Remember, there are people in the world with religions thousands and thousands of years older than yours. They are so convinced they are right and you are wrong, they are willing to kill you for it. And their God will reward them for doing just that. I don’t subscribe to their ideas either.
    Don’t feel sorry for Atheists. We feel ours is an informed decision and are comfortable with it. I don’t generally proselytize my position on God and religion. I wouldn’t take the crutch from someone who needs it. Be comfortable with your beliefs. And be grateful we live in a place that doesn’t dictate what we can believe.

  11. Actually, I like your ‘quitting smoking’ analogy, Brian. People take many paths to reach the same conclusions. Peace, non-aggression, and unlimited study is certainly what I want. I am not sure that a sense of purpose is necessary. Usually I am too busy seeking the truth to worry much about my ultimate fate. The point is, one should value truth above all things even if that truth is not welcome or comforting. I have to stress that one never really finds the truth, but one can discard false ideas for more true ones.

  12. Brian says:

    Great article. Letting go of any Abrahamic faith can be difficult as a result of the conditioning of family and society. Especially a faith that is based on fear. Letting go of Christianity maybe like quitting smoking, you probably will get a craving here and there but overall you are done (sorry if this is a bad analogy) I was Christian at one time and the weird part is that it was the books on Islam that convinced me of Christian nonsense. Not saying I am muslim but one Abrahamic entity is good to use against another. Perhaps you may like reading Jiddu Krishnamurti. Whatever you do I bid you a path of peace, non aggression and unlimited study. Your purpose in this dimension of existence may be the study of purpose in this existence. You may find that your purpose is not to submit to dogma based on fear.

  13. DeMarco, I have obviously approved your comment but I am not able to respond at this time as I am traveling but I will respond in a few weeks time.

  14. DeMarco Robinson says:

    I’m gonna try and summarize My answers to the questions in the order you put them in your post.

    First off, U were never a Born Again Christian according to the Bible itself. In Luke 8:13 Jesus explaining the meaning of the the seed(the word of God) falling on the hearts of men says-

    They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of testing fall away.

    And again in 1 John 2:19 which says-

    They went out from Us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of Us.

    In other words U had an emotional response and followed for a little while, but never understood or grasped Salvation. And proof of it was U walking off and totally denying the existence of God period. Therefore U were never saved.

    Also there is plenty of evidence for a Creator. Creation itself, The Universe and all that’s in it with all its complexity cannot be accounted for by random chance(which is a probability) or natural causes. We know matter is not eternal. And time had a beginning. And whatever created the universe must transcend the universe and cannot be part of that creation. Science and common sense tells us and shows us everyday that Life only comes from Life. Never has life been observed spontaenously generating from chemicals interacting in some warm little pond in a galaxy far far away. Lol. Also matter doesn’t spontaneously generate information, nor do We ever see information coming from anything but an intelligent source, in other words a mind. No exceptions. In fact there is enough information in the DNA of an amoeba(which is the simplest life form) that would fill 1000 complete volumes of The Encyclopedia Brittanica. So where did the information come from Atheist?

    Second, its not that U can’t accept the idea of God, its that U WON’T! U admit even if He appeared to U, U still wouldn’t accept it but write it off as maybe being some advanced life force. Smh. Reason being The God of the Bible holds U accountable for how U think and what U do. And of course the Sinful Human Nature doesn’t want to be told what to do right? You call the shots.

    Thirdly, U say us Christians don’t really love Our God and were in an abusive relationship but are just scared because if We don’t were gonna burn in hell right? Ridiculous. Were not even worried about Hell because The Bible tells us in Romans 8:1-

    There is now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

    And again in 1 Thessalonians 5:9_

    For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.

    So that claim is ridiculous. We are obedient, do Good works, love him and not fear because as it says in 1 John 4:18,19-

    18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear; because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

    19 We Love him, because HE FIRST LOVED US.

    God showed His Love for Us By dying on the Cross and given Us Eternal Life and a clear conscious from sin. So ur wrong again.

    U say u can taste the Christian fear when were challenged on our beliefs? Probably on a new Christian who is just learning. Not on one who knows their Bible.
    And who would know deep down inside something was ridiculous but still follow it anyway even though the consequence is just as ridiculous? Wouldn’t that be illogical? For example, wouldn’t it be stupid to believe that Ur unbelief will send U to a place called Hell that burns forever which U believe deep down inside is ridiculous in the first place? Why be scared? Doesn’t make sense guy.

    Now to answer Ur 10 so called messages to Christians.

    1. Christians know what their Bible says and teaches because We have the Spirit of God. Its people who do not have the Holy Spirit that can’t understand and comprehend Scripture. (1 Corinthians 2:12-14)

    2. Your opinion. Too stupid of an argument to reply to.

    3. We know what evidence is. We have the evidence of Creation, Morality, History, and what We see everyday in the World. Ur Atheism requires a whole lot more Faith and Evidence than Christianity. Particularly Origins.

    4. We dont perceive challenges as coming from the Devil. We believe that people who ask questions and challenge Christianity want to know What and Why We believe what We believe. And their either gonna get corrected or correct Us on a issue.

    As far as the Devil he’s not clever enough to fool Us for the simple Fact as it says in 2 Corinthians 2:11-

    Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

    5. Morals do come from God. If there’s no God than there’s no right and wrong and morality is based on opinion. Don’t think so? Well tell Me what do U base Ur concept of right and wrong on? Has to be a standard in which your measuring good and evil on. Can’t call a line crooked unless U know what a straight line looks like. Who sets the standard

    6. Again, We know what our Bible says. And We know where it came from. 2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Peter 1:20,21

    7. Ur opinion. There aren’t any contradictions. And We don’t avoid difficulties, bring them on. Gods Character is Holy and Righteous. He is the Author of Life so only He has the right to Take it.

    8. We confess Our sins acknowledging that were wrong to Our God and He has forgiven Us on the basis of what Christ has done, not Our own good works. So our conscience is guilt free. And who on this Earth is perfect? No one can keep from making Mistakes in General, but We can keep from making the same mistakes in Life. A Criminal can rob a bank, go to prison, get out, and never rob again. So ur Logic is faulty.

    9. God calls for men to be perfect. But We can’t be perfect because we are fallible Sinful human beings who make mistakes. Therefore God sent His Son Christ into the world to live a perfect life and die in our place. Therefore when We believe and accept his sacrifice his righteousness is credited to Our account. (Romans 4:23-25)

    So although We still sin and are not perfect, We are motivated to do what is right. No different than U being an atheist trying to live a moral life and falling short at times making mistakes.

    10. All True Christian Churches teach the same gospel. And although they migjht disagree on nonessential doctrines, the Central Part of the faith is taught the same. Jesus Christ was crucified on the cross, and resurrrected from the dead proving He was the Son Of God therefore offering the forgivesness of sins and Eternal Life.

    The bottom line is Ur atheism is completely stupid and makes no sense. U have no Basis for Origins, Morality, or Death. U have no answer for Where U came from, Why Ur here, and Where Ur going. Were all just random mistakes according to evolutionist. And by the way, Ur evolution theory is just that, a theory.

    Again, U were never a Christian. Just a pretender wearing the title. Now Ur eternally doomed for your unbelief. I feel sorry for U. Ur not mentally ill, but mentally ignorant.


  15. Mo, I guess your previous comment came through as Spam so I had to approve it. Perhaps I do come across as being a little angry about the topic but that is because I am a human being and I, like so many others, have difficulty being objective about things. And, as I said, religions all too often pose a threat to our civilization. So I think my anger is justified. If I can define a religion as a God or Gods based system of belief without evidence, then all religions are bad, but not all religious people are bad, in fact, most are good people.

    There are already “little church” communities, as you put it for being social. They are called community halls. There are many organizations that do community service, but I do not know to what extent religion plays a part in their constitutions. The Lions Club is one example but I really know nothing about them. I am only aware of them when they are volunteering for various duties such as Blood Donor clinics, park maintenance, food banks, farmers markets or whatever.

  16. In answer to your question about whether I am against all religions, the answer is absolutely yes. Any belief system based on hearsay and anecdotes with absolutely not one shred of evidence is not only foolish, but actually harmful in the extreme. How can denying reality when faced with evidence that does not support one’s belief be anything but a mental illness?

    There are no benefits to religious beliefs, either socially or otherwise that cannot also be achieved using rational logic based humanitarian solutions without the need for a fictional authority figure. There are, for example non-religious based aid programs which help those caught in disaster areas and which help people socially and go a long way to mitigating the famine and other difficulties of social groups around the world. The only difference (as Richard Dawkins has said), is that we as atheists do not require those we help to sit through a lecture, prayer, or other religious ritual first. We do not hold those we help ransom to dogma. We do not threaten them nor tell them lies.

    Having said this, I cannot deny when people find themselves in difficulty, that a belief in an all powerful deity who loves you and who helps you through a time of difficulty can be of great comfort and can really help one to find solutions to the problems at hand. I myself underwent exactly such a process. My own belief in Jesus was likely the only thing that kept me sane enough to eventually realize it for what it was: A Placebo. Once I began to understand what was happening to me, I was able to view my situation with a much better grip on reality. It is clinging irrationally to those same beliefs that I object to. I now think that having such religious beliefs are not a necessary part of the healing process if one obtains proper counseling when faced with emotional or mental difficulties. At the time I went through this, I had no alternative so I deluded myself into believing it in order to survive long enough to get help. Indeed, I can confidentially say that my religious upbringing was in large part (but not completely) directly responsible for the mental difficulties I had experienced.

    Again, the community aspect you refer to is being achieved by many other organizations that are not based on submission to religious dogma. In fact, religion breeds intolerance and hatred. The world would indeed be a better place if everyone were to based their morality on themselves, and not on some external God figure. It would indeed be a better place if everyone would base their lives on reality, on real evidence and not on stories carefully crafted to keep us slaves to unquestionable authority.

  17. Mo says:

    hmmm, left a whole post here asking you to address a few things, but it looks like it didn’t get sent?
    so….here it is again…
    Any thoughts on versions of christianity that are “open and affirming? – how about churches that don’t subscribe to the Devil? Are you against all religion? or is Christianity the only burr in your butt?
    I was born and raised atheist, so am always interested in how others can possibly believe in this stuff…I do see the community aspect of it that can be a good thing. If we could just have that without the intolerance of others…maybe the world would be a nicer place?

  18. Mo says:

    ouch! Sounds angry! one question…coming from a born atheist myself, what about “versions” of christianity that do not subscribe to beliefs such as the Devil? – Also, what are your thoughts on “open and affirming” churches? Again, growing up atheist, I don’t know as much as I would like about religion in general. I am fascinated by it though! (maybe more than anything fascinated at how people can possibly believe in any of it!) Took a religious studies class in University just to see what all the hype was about.
    I do however always think, that it would be really nice to have things like little church communities – people gathering, helping eachother, singing, putting on little fairs….all the good stuff of church, without the religion aspect, or the intolerance of outsider views. How can we get that?

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